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23-06-13, 15:23 #16
Sv: Barndommens spøkelser og Alice Miller
Tilfeldigheter på nettet gjør noen ganger at ting som vekker interesse dukker opp. Nå var det en artikkel om en amerikansk predikant som har skrevet en bok om barn og straff http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/us...-spanking.html The Pearls provide instructions on using a switch from as early as six months to discourage misbehavior and describe how to make use of implements for hitting on the arms, legs or back, including a quarter-inch flexible plumbing line that, Mr. Pearl notes, “can be rolled up and carried in your pocket.” Dette er barnemishandling. Hvordan kan et seks måneder gammelt barn gjøre noe galt? Og selv om barnet gjør noe galt, skal det ikke bli slått. Når skal barn få samme rettigheter som voksne verden over?
Her er pastorens hjemmeside http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/too-young-to-spank/Så hvis du kontrollerer humøret ditt er det helt greit? Det er aggresjonen som er feil, og ikke volden?Spanking at any age should only be administered by those who have a proper philosophy of spanking and are not emotionally-driven.
Om et seks måneder gammelt barnWe have made the point here that children under three (give or take six months or so) cannot profit from corporal punishment, but we have made the point elsewhere that small children do profit from the application of the training rod. How are they different? In both cases, the child is being swatted with an instrument. There is a great deal of difference in both the severity and the number of “licks,” and also in the parents’ expectations and perspective. For that reason, we cannot arbitrarily specify a suitable age and declare that it is fitting to spank a child beginning at that point. Children differ, spankings differ, circumstances differ, and parents differ.Noen ganger skulle jeg ønske at det skulle være foreldresetifikat. Denne mannen skulle aldri fått barn. Boken hans har et opplag på 670 000 bøker. Hvis hver familie har minst to barn, så blir det mange skadede barn.....But all of his demanding behaviors and disruptive outbursts become a heavy (sometimes embarrassing) burden for parents to bear, often leading them to ignore him, or worse yet, allow him to develop a deeply imbedded selfish attitude. It is obvious to any parent that the six-month-old can be demanding and angry. He can demand his way, even when it is not good for him, like crawling on the floor in a restaurant, or eating what he ought not. He can demand to have your glasses, which he will immediately destroy, and scream defiance if you do not comply with his lusts.
Beskrivelse av et barn som er litt mer enn seks månederLuther sa at man kunne se om barnet var fra Gud eller djevelen når det lå i vuggen. Denne mannen er like gal som Luther i sitt syn på barnet. Forskjellen er at det er så mye mer kunnskap tilgjengelig i dag.He is a hardened, hedonistic heathen,
Det er fantastisk hvordan det er mulig å blande fysisk avstraffelse med kjærlighet. Man søker kontroll over barnet.It is a path without anger or loss of control. It is the method of training, the walk of discipline. First, the parent must be trained to exercise personal discipline, and then he is capable of constraining the child to walk in discipline—sometimes by application of the rod of training. The child grows up emotionally secure, with no self-loathing, wrapped in a bright beam of love, and walking securely on the ground of self-respect. It is a journey that ends with exceptional adult children who bless their parents.
Et barn på seks måneder med begrenset motorikk viser altså trass og motstand når bollen med mat havner på gulvet? Oh my god......“When is a child too young to spank?” Based on my definition of “spanking,” I can answer the question. A child is too young to spank when spanking is not profitable to the child. Of course, the same applies to a child of any age.
Let me give you an example of the application of the “rod of training.” A six-month-old throws his food bowl on the floor because he doesn’t like what is in it. This is the early stage of self-will and defiance. If the little guy gets away with it and if his parents don’t constrain him to do otherwise, then they are normalizing such behavior. Furthermore, they are allowing the seeds of defiance to grow in the child’s soul.
jeg blir nødt til å sitere mer, dette er så utspekulert og forferdeligDu skal altså passe på å straffe barnet ditt, du skal markere barnets sjel, barnet vilje skal knekkes og knuses og underkastes din. Men ingen skal se merkene av din behandling. Ganske fiffige torturmetoder hva? utført i kjærlighet av vennlige og gode foreldre.So we watch him, knowing his propensity to selfish compulsion. When he seizes his bowl with intentions of dumping it, swat the offending hand with a little instrument (light wooden spoon, rubber spatula, flexible tubing less than a quarter inch in diameter, or any instrument that will cause an unpleasant sting without leaving any marks). As you swat the offending hand, say “No” in a normal commanding voice.
Ja, jeg glemte å fortelle at det følger litt død i hælene på denne gode gudsmannDebate over the Pearls’ teachings, first seen on Christian Web sites, gained new intensity after the death of a third child, all allegedly at the hands of parents who kept the Pearls’ book, “To Train Up a Child,” in their homes. On Sept. 29, the parents were charged with homicide by abuse.In the latest case, Larry and Carri Williams of Sedro-Woolley, Wash., were home-schooling their six children when they adopted a girl and a boy, ages 11 and 7, from Ethiopia in 2008. The two were seen by their new parents as rebellious, according to friends.
Late one night in May this year, the adopted girl, Hana, was found face down, naked and emaciated in the backyard; her death was caused by hypothermia and malnutrition, officials determined. According to the sheriff’s report, the parents had deprived her of food for days at a time and had made her sleep in a cold barn or a closet and shower outside with a hose. And they often whipped her, leaving marks on her legs. The mother had praised the Pearls’ book and given a copy to a friend, the sheriff’s report said. Hana had been beaten the day of her death, the report said, with the 15-inch plastic tube recommended by Mr. Pearl.The same kind of plumbing tube was reported to have been used to beat Lydia Schatz, 7, who was adopted at age 4 from Liberia and died in Paradise, Calif., in 2010. Her parents, Kevin and Elizabeth Schatz, had the Pearl book but ignored its admonition against extended lashing or harm; they whipped Lydia for hours, with pauses for prayer. She died from severe tissue damage, and her older sister had to be hospitalized, officials said.• Hashimoto's, hypotyreose, Armour 2009
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