Hello Paul! I have some questions I hope you have time to answer.

[Paul Robinson]

If I added a small amout of T3 to my Thyroid dosis (and took away a bit of Thyroid) would I then be able to see a difference. I am sorry my head is filled with cotton today! I mean: could I take a kind of test with a very small amount of T3 togeether with my Thyroid. Would I then be able to see if the T3 only maybe was a solution?

You wrote another place I feel I could be one of those people! I have been using NDT/Thyroid for 3 years now. The latest months I have a feeling of moving backward into worse conditions.

I have tried to take Thyroid in the night (CT3 Metod) some nights now. I wake up with a heatbeat in the night, like 3-4-5 o'clock. But I still have that heartbeat after taking my Thyroid. And cannot sleep the rest of the night. You said earlier

So my question is: is my reaction to take Thyroid in the late night a kind of proof that I should start on T3 only?

Tonight I will start on my first dose of LDN, 1.5 mg.

No - not necessarily. Iron is only one of the barriers. Cortisol and several other things can be also. How many hours before you get up on a morning did you try to take the NDT and how much T3 is in the NDT dose that you used for the CT3M?

Other barriers are B12, folate, vitamin D, blood sugar/insulin.

You may be a good candidate for T3 replacement but it might still be cortisol or something else. Have you have a cortisol test?

[Vigdis]

Cortisoltest: Only cortisol i urine some times each year (2-4 x). Salivatest 2.5 year ago, it was pretty low, my Doc said almost Addison's...

Thyroid dose CT3M: ca 0.5 grain, ca 4-5 mcg T3? Is it too low to have any effect?

I use 22.5 mg hc now. I can do some experiments with a higher dose and see if it make any difference.

[Paul Robinson]

Cortisoltest: Only cortisol i urine some times each year (2-4 x). Salivatest 2.5 year ago, it was pretty low, my Doc said almost Addison's...

Thyroid dose CT3M: ca 0.5 grain, ca 4-5 mcg T3? Is it too low to have any effect?

I use 22.5 mg hc now. I can do some experiments with a higher dose and see if it make any difference.

Well, I have to ask is it more important to get the thyroid hormones working right with HC or to get the HC down?

4-5 mcg is a bit too low yes.

You can't determine Addison's easily from saliva testing - have you had a Synacthen test? (ACTH Stimulation test - it is the gold standard for testing for Addison's).

[Vigdis]

My holistic Doc said it was almost Addison's. My GP said it was no point in a Synachen-test. So no test! The cortisol was in the bottom, but still in the bloody normal aerea.

Is there any point in taking Synachen-test now, when I use Cortison?

Ok! I will take a higher dose with thyroid in the mornging/late night

[Vigdis]

I have bought a BP meter today. I have had a low BP for a long time, checket at my GP each time. Today it seems to be high? 166 systolic 114 Diastolic. Pulse 78. Earlier I used to have a resting pulse on ca 70.

Norwegian:

Jeg har kjøpt et blodtrykksapparat i dag. Jeg har hatt et lavt blodtrykk lenge, fastlegen min sjekket det hver gang jeg var hos ham. I dag ser det ut til å være litt høyt? 166 systolisk 114 Diastoliskc. Puls 78. Jeg har tidligere hatt hvilepuls på ca 70.

Lommelegen om blodtrykk

[Paul Robinson]

I have bought a BP meter today. I have had a low BP for a long time, checket at my GP each time. Today it seems to be high? 166 systolic 114 Diastolic. Pulse 78. Earlier I used to have a resting pulse on ca 70.

Norwegian:

Jeg har kjøpt et blodtrykksapparat i dag. Jeg har hatt et lavt blodtrykk lenge, fastlegen min sjekket det hver gang jeg var hos ham. I dag ser det ut til å være litt høyt? 166 systolisk 114 Diastoliskc. Puls 78. je ghar tidligere hatt hvilepuls på ca 70.

So, this may be related to your medication possibly. You need to take the BP, temp and heart rate at different times of the day and see if it is related to your meds.

If someone is using the Circadian T3 Method and they do too good a job of boosting the adrenals then this can also push BP up - then the timing has to be adjusted or the dose size.

[Vigdis]

Thank you for your answers Paul.

Right now I feel it extremely difficult to have any idea if my cortisol is low or high. I feel like a wreck..


EDIT/Admin: This thread is translated into Norwegian by piri-piri. You can find the translated thread here: https://www.stofskifteforum.dk/showthread.php?t=14349

[Vigdis]

But Elbeth, my BP is high because of my adrenals/hypo condition. So Paul is right I belive: the solution is in the medication. To find the right dose and the right treatment. The last 2.5 years my BP has been more like low, or like my GP use to say: like a twenty year old...

And low BP is very common when you have adrenal issue

[Elbeth]

But Elbeth, my BP is high because of my adrenals/hypo condition. So Paul is right I belive: the solution is in the medication. To find the right dose and the right treatment. The last 2.5 years my BP has been more like low, or like my GP use to say: like a twenty year old...

And low BP is very common when you have adrenal issue

So this means most doctors don't not have the faintest idea about BP and adrenals. I have hypertension which should mean I have no adrenal problems.
My doctor didn't even think about testing my adrenals with saliva. He let me take a 24 hour urine sample to test the adrenals, though, and I think just because I was nagging.

- "You read too much", he said (meaning if you read a lot about sympoms, you think you have them too)

[Paul Robinson]

My holistic Doc said it was almost Addison's. My GP said it was no point in a Synachen-test. So no test! The cortisol was in the bottom, but still in the bloody normal aerea.

Is there any point in taking Synachen-test now, when I use Cortison?

Ok! I will take a higher dose with thyroid in the mornging/late night

No point doing a Synacthen now on HC.

But you can test cortisol on HC see my latest blog:
http://recoveringwitht3.com/blog/usi...drenal-support

If you suspect cortisol is high then you do saliva or blood cortisol test just before your next dose of HC is due.
If you suspect cortisol is low then you do the test a couple of hours after the HC dose.

Paul